Evidence of meeting #38 for Official Languages in the 40th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was forces.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

W. Semianiw  chef du personnel militaire, ministère de la Défense nationale
J.P.L. Meloche  Director of Official Languages, Department of National Defence
J.P.Y.D. Gosselin  Commander, Canadian Defence Academy, Department of National Defence
J.J.R.G. Hamel  Commander, Canadian Forces Base Borden, Department of National Defence
S.J.R. Whelan  Commander, Canadian Forces Leadership and Recruit School, Department of National Defence

10:45 a.m.

Commander, Canadian Defence Academy, Department of National Defence

MGen J.P.Y.D. Gosselin

Thank you for your question. I'm going to talk specifically about my experience with young officers who come to the military college. Young people across the country who come to us know that, at the military college, if they are officers in the Canadian Forces, they'll have to become bilingual if they want to advance in the organization. General Semianiw talked earlier about generals, about the pressure that is exercised to ensure that generals, the main leaders, are bilingual. However, there are also bilingualism levels at all ranks. For example, Colonel Whelan, an anglophone who has good French ratings himself, would not be commanding the Saint-Jean school if he wasn't bilingual. Someone who starts, a captain or a major who wants to advance, who has already taken language courses, who is at the military college and who already has good language ratings will score points with the merit boards and have the opportunity to occupy command positions. To do that, we have to have certain bilingualism ratings. So people learn that quite quickly.

My impression is that that's done quickly at military college, from the first year, because the accent is placed so much on bilingualism that people know they'll need it in order to become officers in the Canadian Forces. For non-commissioned officers, no, because it takes them a number of years. In addition, infantry men who go away to join the regiment in Valcartier or who go to Edmonton and enter the infantry as privates, don't think about it at all.

10:45 a.m.

Conservative

Sylvie Boucher Conservative Beauport—Limoilou, QC

They don't think about it.

10:45 a.m.

Commander, Canadian Defence Academy, Department of National Defence

MGen J.P.Y.D. Gosselin

However, when they rise through the ranks to hold a senior non-commissioned officer position at my headquarters, for example, they must be bilingual. Among officers, this is a fact that is absorbed more quickly in the first years, and there's a reason for that.

Does everyone completely accept it? Not necessarily, but I think we're making efforts, particularly from the standpoint of language and culture. For non-commissioned officers, it's more on a needs basis.

10:45 a.m.

Conservative

Sylvie Boucher Conservative Beauport—Limoilou, QC

I have one final question. Earlier you talked about open houses. I'd like you to explain to me how that works, please. I think that's important.

10:45 a.m.

Commander, Canadian Forces Base Borden, Department of National Defence

Col J.J.R.G. Hamel

With regard to CFB Borden, we held our three open houses in September and, among the guests, 38 community partners came to provide services. We're talking about schools for francophones, community clubs, health services and employment assistance services. These people come and see us, and base members are invited to go and visit their facilities, to go and meet those groups that provide services to francophone members.

10:45 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Steven Blaney

Thank you very much, Ms. Boucher.

Mr. Gravelle, do you have any additional questions?

10:45 a.m.

NDP

Claude Gravelle NDP Nickel Belt, ON

Earlier, in the first hour, we heard that when officers are ready for promotion, they are assigned points for bilingualism. When you recruit officers or non-commissioned officers, are bilingual candidates given preference over those who are unilingual?

10:45 a.m.

Director of Official Languages, Department of National Defence

Col J.P.L. Meloche

I can answer that question, as I was director of recruitment for the Canadian Forces. When we recruit military members, we recruit Canadians; we're not recruiting anglophones or francophones. So we don't have any quotas. From that point, every candidate is assessed; that is to say that we assess their military potential—a score is assigned to that—and their academic potential, if they want to go to a military college, for example. Based on that, we total up the two, prepare a list and make enrolment offers.

10:50 a.m.

NDP

Claude Gravelle NDP Nickel Belt, ON

Thank you.

10:50 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Steven Blaney

Thank you very much, Mr. Gravelle.

This completes our second round. Would other parliamentarians like to ask further questions?

I would like to thank you for appearing before our committee this morning.

10:50 a.m.

Commander, Canadian Defence Academy, Department of National Defence

10:50 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Steven Blaney

We'll see each other next Tuesday.

The meeting is adjourned.