Thank you, Mr. Chair.
I don't want to spend too much time on the issue but, like most of my colleagues, I really enjoyed the meetings I had with some of you. Consultation is very useful, but we're not talking about consultation here. I think that all those around this table will agree with me when I say that public consultation is much broader than what we're dealing with.
I'm surprised to hear you talk so much about governance, because it is one of the five goals of the Roadmap.
Today, we talked a lot about this governance issue.
In the Roadmap, $33 million are set aside for governance. I would like to mention a few of the numbers I found in this paper. Some $2.5 million is to be spent to set up an ongoing consultation process, which doesn't seem to have been done. Then, $13.5 million has been set aside for the Horizontal Accountability and Coordination Framework, though nothing seems to have been done there either. Finally, $17 million has been earmarked for a Centre of Excellence to promote accountability. I wonder where all of that money has gone?
You mentioned that you had trouble getting the numbers, results, and finding out where the money has gone. I suppose that's going to be part of the questions you'll ask us, as Mr. Bélanger has asked. I personally think that it's extremely important that we find out where that money has gone. You said that you visited the Web site and that you only found publicity. You found no data that would explain how that money has been spent. But governance is one of the priorities of the Roadmap.
Heritage Canada and Official Languages Canada say that they are quite willing to review the Horizontal Management and Accountability Framework. On the other hand, they refuse to meet with you. You've told us that you asked to meet with the minister after the Speech from the Throne. What can you add to this?