Evidence of meeting #17 for Official Languages in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was brunswick.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Monique Drapeau-Miles  Executive Director, Population Support, Population Growth Secretariat, Department of Post-Secondary Education, Training and Labour, Government of New Brunswick
Guy Jourdain  Director Executive, Francophone Affairs Secretariat, Government of Manitoba, Ministerial Conference on the Canadian Francophonie
Daniel Cayen  Assistant Deputy Minister, Office of Francophone Affairs, Government of Ontario, Ministerial Conference on the Canadian Francophonie
Mario Boisvert  Immigration Program Officer, Population Growth Secretariat, Government of New Brunswick

Richard Nadeau Bloc Gatineau, QC

I'm talking about concrete matters.

10 a.m.

Director Executive, Francophone Affairs Secretariat, Government of Manitoba, Ministerial Conference on the Canadian Francophonie

Guy Jourdain

I can't give you any specific details, but I'm sure Citizenship and Immigration Canada could.

Richard Nadeau Bloc Gatineau, QC

Ms. Drapeau-Miles, did you attend that meeting?

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Executive Director, Population Support, Population Growth Secretariat, Department of Post-Secondary Education, Training and Labour, Government of New Brunswick

Monique Drapeau-Miles

No, but three individuals represented us there.

Richard Nadeau Bloc Gatineau, QC

Have you heard anything about what emerged from that meeting that should be included in our report?

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Executive Director, Population Support, Population Growth Secretariat, Department of Post-Secondary Education, Training and Labour, Government of New Brunswick

Monique Drapeau-Miles

They talked about three essential priorities for this year. They're closely related to the activities I talked about earlier: reinforcing immigration networks in the provinces and territories, the economic integration of francophone immigrants and promotion and recruitment.

Richard Nadeau Bloc Gatineau, QC

Thank you very much.

The Chair Conservative Steven Blaney

Thank you, Mr. Nadeau.

We'll continue with Mr. Généreux.

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Conservative

Bernard Généreux Conservative Montmagny—L'Islet—Kamouraska—Rivière-du-Loup, QC

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

I want to thank the witnesses for being here today. I'll be speaking to Mr. Jourdain in particular.

In your opinion, would it be appropriate for the minister of the Canadian francophonie to develop a national model respectful of the provincial jurisdictions, on the basis of which the provinces could build their francophone immigration programs? Could we consider that?

From that model, for example, employment adaptability programs could be developed. That's like selecting the best aspects of everything that's being done in Canada. I imagine you do that within the Ministerial Conference on the Canadian Francophonie. Could we see that in a more standardized way nationally, so that even more decisive results could be achieved?

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Director Executive, Francophone Affairs Secretariat, Government of Manitoba, Ministerial Conference on the Canadian Francophonie

Guy Jourdain

As I said earlier, one of the three legs on the stool is intergovernmental cooperation. It's one of the main objectives of the ministerial conference on the Canadian francophonie in this matter. The model you refer to is a tool that could tend in that direction. Obviously, the Ministerial Conference on the Canadian Francophonie has not taken a position on this particular approach, but it would be consistent with the objectives we're pursuing.

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Conservative

Bernard Généreux Conservative Montmagny—L'Islet—Kamouraska—Rivière-du-Loup, QC

Has the Ministerial Conference on the Canadian Francophonie already considered these things?

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Director Executive, Francophone Affairs Secretariat, Government of Manitoba, Ministerial Conference on the Canadian Francophonie

Guy Jourdain

We haven't considered them, no.

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Conservative

Bernard Généreux Conservative Montmagny—L'Islet—Kamouraska—Rivière-du-Loup, QC

That's fine.

Are the plans, priorities and measures taken by the CMFC regarding francophone immigration in harmony with the strategic plan of the Citizenship and Immigration Canada—Francophone Minority Communities Steering Committee launched in 2006?

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Director Executive, Francophone Affairs Secretariat, Government of Manitoba, Ministerial Conference on the Canadian Francophonie

Guy Jourdain

Yes. As I indicated in my remarks a little earlier, we support the general orientations of the strategic plan that was announced by the federal government in 2006. We consider it an invaluable tool. We are ready to work in that direction.

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Conservative

Bernard Généreux Conservative Montmagny—L'Islet—Kamouraska—Rivière-du-Loup, QC

That's fine.

Ms. Drapeau-Miles, New Brunswick has an extremely rich francophone history, since the province is already officially bilingual. As a result of the history of Acadian society, you are ahead of all the other Canadian provinces with regard to the francophonie.

When you travel outside the country to promote New Brunswick, is that history an advantage for New Brunswick? We heard that, when the representatives of the provinces promote their provinces outside the country, there is some friendly competition. Representatives are all seated at the same table to recruit potential francophone immigrants. I imagine New Brunswick has an advantage, to a certain degree. Does having such a rich francophone history give you a significant advantage?

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Executive Director, Population Support, Population Growth Secretariat, Department of Post-Secondary Education, Training and Labour, Government of New Brunswick

Monique Drapeau-Miles

I'm going to answer you, but then I'll hand over to Mario.

Naturally, the Congrès mondial acadien is the ideal platform for showcasing the wealth of New Brunswick's culture. Even anglophones can't believe it. Quite often, people from the province would like to have an exchange in the province in order to share that cultural wealth. It's so easy to talk about Acadian culture and to sell it by travelling in Canada.

I'm going to give you an example. I attended the Olympic Games and it was very easy to talk about my culture. What I say is very personal.

With regard to promotion and recruitment, I'll let Mario talk about Acadia's image in other countries.

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Immigration Program Officer, Population Growth Secretariat, Government of New Brunswick

Mario Boisvert

Acadia is quite well known in France and Belgium. However, it is less well known outside those countries. People realize the advantage New Brunswick has in being bilingual. In virtually all francophone countries, people have basic English courses at school, but they never had the opportunity to speak the language in everyday life. When they come to New Brunswick, they are convinced they will learn both languages while living and working in French.

In France, I would say that we draw the interest of those who aren't familiar with Acadia, and they do a little research. They often come and see.

10:05 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Steven Blaney

Thank you, Mr. Généreux.

Mr. Godin, it was your birthday yesterday. Go ahead, please.

Some voices

Oh, oh!

Yvon Godin NDP Acadie—Bathurst, NB

It happens.

A voice

That's why he was late.

Yvon Godin NDP Acadie—Bathurst, NB

No, I was at the French embassy, and I'm wasting speaking time.

Earlier a question was asked about the targets in New Brunswick. What are the targets? The $10 million isn't intended for anglophone immigration. It's included in the Roadmap for French. The idea is to attract French immigrants to New Brunswick. What are the targets?

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Executive Director, Population Support, Population Growth Secretariat, Department of Post-Secondary Education, Training and Labour, Government of New Brunswick

Monique Drapeau-Miles

I talked about that in my address.

Yvon Godin NDP Acadie—Bathurst, NB

Let's talk about it again.

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Executive Director, Population Support, Population Growth Secretariat, Department of Post-Secondary Education, Training and Labour, Government of New Brunswick

Monique Drapeau-Miles

I'm going to repeat it. The objective is to maintain the province's linguistic balance. That the province's statement.