Evidence of meeting #30 for Official Languages in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was commissioner.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Graham Fraser  Commissioner, Office of the Commissioner of Official Languages
Ghislaine Charlebois  Assistant Commissioner, Compliance Assurance Branch, Office of the Commissioner of Official Languages
Johane Tremblay  Lead Counsel and Director, Legal Affairs Branch, Office of the Commissioner of Official Languages

10:35 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Steven Blaney

Thank you.

10:35 a.m.

NDP

Yvon Godin NDP Acadie—Bathurst, NB

They are starting to do a bad job again. An empty library is like a school without books.

10:35 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Steven Blaney

Thank you.

10:35 a.m.

NDP

Yvon Godin NDP Acadie—Bathurst, NB

We have received calls from people who do not want to be identified. They are soldiers who do not want to give their names, but they tell us what is going on.

10:35 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Steven Blaney

Mr. Godin...

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NDP

Yvon Godin NDP Acadie—Bathurst, NB

It is still going on this week.

10:35 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Steven Blaney

Mr. Godin...

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NDP

Yvon Godin NDP Acadie—Bathurst, NB

If possible, could you complete your investigation as quickly as possible, because they are removing the books from the library as we speak.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Steven Blaney

Mr. Godin, your time is up.

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NDP

Yvon Godin NDP Acadie—Bathurst, NB

Fine.

10:35 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Steven Blaney

Thank you.

We will conclude with Ms. Tilly O'Neil-Gordon.

10:35 a.m.

Conservative

Tilly O'Neill-Gordon Conservative Miramichi, NB

Thank you, Mr. Chair, and welcome to everyone joining us this morning.

Coming from a classroom, I'd like to focus my attention on training. We know that training is available. We also know that our government has put more money into official languages than any other government in Canadian history.

Training is available in my constituency in the daytime or the evening, and there's also private tutoring. Not only is it up to the manager, but the leadership also has to come from the individual employee. I'm quite certain and happy to say that in my constituency I see that happening on many occasions.

Your report also touches on some success stories. I wonder if you could focus on some of those success stories that have taken place, with people going forward and putting good effort into taking training to become bilingual.

10:35 a.m.

Commissioner, Office of the Commissioner of Official Languages

Graham Fraser

Mr. Chairman, thank you very much for the question.

I'd like to say something in particular about the Canada School of Public Service. While there are some shortcomings in terms of what we discovered in terms of our observations, I am impressed with the initiative they are taking in terms of developing a pilot project with 11 post-secondary institutions. This is an approach that I think is extremely important for laying the groundwork so that universities provide language training for future public servants so that they arrive on the job with the language classification they need to progress in the public service.

The federal government is Canada's largest employer. I noted with some considerable interest, a week or 10 days ago, a Globe and Mail special supplement on universities. One of the sections asked students who their choice employer would be, and in every sector, whether it was medicine, whether it was law, whether it was arts, or whether it was science, their employer of choice was the federal government.

I think it is extremely important that training exist not just for new employees and not just for employees as part of their career planning, who intend to qualify themselves for the executive ranks or for supervisory ranks, where they would have language responsibilities. The federal government should send the message to universities that this is something that is very important for advancement in the ranks of the public service, since, quite clearly, students have sent the strong message that they see the federal government as an employer of choice.

Similarly, universities have to send the message to secondary schools that they will consider language an important criteria when they evaluate applications.

I think there's a cascading effect that needs to happen, from Canada's largest employer to the universities and from the universities to secondary schools and school boards.

10:40 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Steven Blaney

Thank you very much.

Thank you, Ms. O'Neill-Gordon.

It is 10:40 and almost time for the committee to close. Mr. Lunney was asking for some short comments, but I'm not sure we can afford it, since we have to finish.

I will give you one minute, Mr. Lunney, since you're an honorary member. So use this minute with lots of brightness, please.

November 4th, 2010 / 10:40 a.m.

Conservative

James Lunney Conservative Nanaimo—Alberni, BC

Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

In British Columbia, there is a huge demand to study in French. There are francophone schools for children who have a francophone parent, and other immersion schools. Many parents want to send their children to school in French. In this very room, there is a young woman who studied French at the University of Victoria and who completed her studies in Strasbourg, France. She works for the government here in Ottawa. The demand for schooling in French is on the rise in British Columbia.

10:40 a.m.

Commissioner, Office of the Commissioner of Official Languages

Graham Fraser

I would like to thank the member for his remarks, which I agree with entirely. I have also seen the interest in schooling in French and how excellent it is.

I have visited French schools which are doing very interesting things and offering distance learning. I participated in a physics class. The teacher was in Victoria, and small classes across the province could follow the lesson by computer. I also visited immersion schools. I was very impressed by the dedication, the commitment, and the interest of students and teachers. At Simon Fraser University, students in a specific program can take all their courses in French.

10:40 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Steven Blaney

Thank you, Mr. Commissioner and Mr. Lunney, for that digest of information on second-language learning.

I would like to remind members that today or tomorrow morning they will be receiving the final version of the report that we will consider on Thursday. As for the witness who was unavailable on Tuesday, and who shall remain nameless, we have proposed some dates. I will give you those dates on November 16.

10:40 a.m.

Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

Mr. Chair, do you mean that we will examine the report we are going to receive today or tomorrow morning at the first meeting after we come back?

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Steven Blaney

Absolutely.

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Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

That is the following Tuesday.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Steven Blaney

Yes, Tuesday, November 16. I will be getting confirmation of the date when the witness we were unable to hear from on Tuesday will appear.

Commissioner, I want to thank you and your team for appearing, and we will see you again soon.

10:40 a.m.

Commissioner, Office of the Commissioner of Official Languages

Graham Fraser

Thank you very much.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Steven Blaney

The meeting is adjourned.