Evidence of meeting #46 for Official Languages in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was yellowknife.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Alain Bessette  Manager, Éditions franco-ténoises, Aquilon et la Société Radio Taïga
François Pitre  Chairman of the Board of Directors, Conseil de développement économique des Territoires du Nord-Ouest
Justin Carey  President, Association franco-culturelle de Hay River
Simon Lepage  Vice-President, Association franco-culturelle de Hay River
Jean de Dieu Tuyishime  Director, Réseau Territoires du Nord-Ouest Santé en français, Fédération Franco-Ténoise
Sylvie Francoeur  Executive Director, Conseil de développement économique des Territoires du Nord-Ouest
Marie-Pierre Dupont  Garderie Plein Soleil
Suzette Montreuil  Chair, Commission scolaire francophone des Territoires du Nord-Ouest
Marie Coderre  Executive Director, Culture, Association franco-culturelle de Yellowknife
Rachelle Francoeur  Coordinator, Jeunesse Territoires du Nord-Ouest, Fédération Franco-Ténoise
Marc Bilodeau  President, Association des parents ayants droit de Yellowknife
Philippe Brûlot  Superintendent, Commission scolaire francophone des Territoires du Nord-Ouest

3 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Steven Blaney

So, you really need different and separate facilities.

That's excellent. That completes our first round.

We'll now start the second round.

Mr. Murphy.

3 p.m.

Liberal

Brian Murphy Liberal Moncton—Riverview—Dieppe, NB

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

I would like to thank all the witnesses for being here.

I am an Anglophone from Moncton, New Brunswick. In that province, we have long considered that a Francophone population, or bilingual population, is an important tool for promoting the local economy. It is an economic development tool among others.

I am wondering why a federal agency like CanNor is not providing minimal services in French. Moncton is where ACOA, the Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency, has its head office. If it were not providing bilingual services for business owners and entrepreneurs, that would cause a real scandal.

I read in the notes prepared by the Library of Parliament that, here in the North, you have a higher percentage of Francophone immigrants than in the rest of the country. That may mean—and I'd like your feedback on this—that there are some Francophone entrepreneurs out there who would like to start a business here but don't do so because CanNor is unable to provide services and there is no federal agency to help them.

Am I right? It seems incredible. I think Mr. Godin already asked you this question. Is that the way it is?

3 p.m.

Chairman of the Board of Directors, Conseil de développement économique des Territoires du Nord-Ouest

François Pitre

There are no services in French offered at this time, either by the federal government or territorial government.

3 p.m.

Liberal

Brian Murphy Liberal Moncton—Riverview—Dieppe, NB

I have the paper from the Library of Parliament in front of me. It provides figures showing that, since 2009-2010, $100,000 has been provided yearly by Canadian Heritage, under the Economic Development Initiative, to the Northern Economic Development Agency. Where is that money?

3 p.m.

Executive Director, Conseil de développement économique des Territoires du Nord-Ouest

Sylvie Francoeur

As a matter of fact, I wanted to talk about that initiative, but my time for answering was up. I wrote a little note to Mr. Godin, asking him to remind me to talk about it.

3 p.m.

Liberal

Brian Murphy Liberal Moncton—Riverview—Dieppe, NB

Please share the information with us!

3 p.m.

Executive Director, Conseil de développement économique des Territoires du Nord-Ouest

Sylvie Francoeur

Absolutely. I will tear up my little note.

This is the only program offered by CanNor at this time in support of Francophone development in the North.

We are sitting here criticizing CanNor, but I think its officials actually show a lot of openness towards the Francophone community. They are making a tremendous effort to work with us. We received funding for projects through other programs. There is a lot of openness there.

I am currently working with a gentleman who is responsible for official languages, so that we can go one step further. In terms of their service offer, they do not provide services in English to Anglophones either. The problem is that they have to structure this new creature, which seems incredible. It took six months to settle the issue of the new president's signing power.

Dealing with the bureaucratic and administrative issues involved in creating this new infrastructure is taking an enormous amount of time. That is what we have been told. It took two years to build their offices in Iqaluit and now they have to hire staff. We have been told that they are still at the initial phase of developing the actual structure of the agency, now that they have dealt with the fundamentals and created the organization.

There has been some discussion about a more formal process under the new mediation program. I have forgotten the name of it. There has been discussion of the idea of submitting a project under that program, in order to support our actions and start to pick the pace. We have been patient up until now. We have cooperated closely with them, but beginning in the new year, part of my mandate will be to apply a little more pressure and move things forward a little more quickly.

3:05 p.m.

Liberal

Brian Murphy Liberal Moncton—Riverview—Dieppe, NB

I have two quick questions.

There is also an economic development and employability network at the federal level.

Is that network operating in your community? Is it effective?

3:05 p.m.

Chairman of the Board of Directors, Conseil de développement économique des Territoires du Nord-Ouest

François Pitre

Are you talking about the Coordinating Group on Economic Development and Employment Canada?

3:05 p.m.

Liberal

Brian Murphy Liberal Moncton—Riverview—Dieppe, NB

Yes.

3:05 p.m.

Jean-François Pitre

That's us. The CDETNO is one of the 12 representatives on the Coordinating Group.

3:05 p.m.

Liberal

Brian Murphy Liberal Moncton—Riverview—Dieppe, NB

I see; thank you.

3:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Steven Blaney

Thank you very much, Mr. Murphy.

Please be quick. We will let you take a little bit more than the few seconds you have left.

3:05 p.m.

Liberal

Brian Murphy Liberal Moncton—Riverview—Dieppe, NB

Access to high speed Internet is an important communications tool for economic development. I know there is no such service in Hay River, based on what we've been told.

3:05 p.m.

Vice-President, Association franco-culturelle de Hay River

Simon Lepage

High speed is slow.

3:05 p.m.

Chairman of the Board of Directors, Conseil de développement économique des Territoires du Nord-Ouest

François Pitre

It's not very good.

3:05 p.m.

Liberal

Brian Murphy Liberal Moncton—Riverview—Dieppe, NB

Where is that service available?

3:05 p.m.

Chairman of the Board of Directors, Conseil de développement économique des Territoires du Nord-Ouest

François Pitre

The only high speed service is in Yellowknife, because they have cable there. Everywhere else, it is a satellite service and it's not very fast.

3:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Steven Blaney

Thank you very much, Mr. Murphy.

We will move now to Ms. Guay.

3:05 p.m.

Bloc

Monique Guay Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

Earlier you said that there are 80 Francophone businesses here. I would like to know what areas they are operating in.

3:05 p.m.

Vice-President, Association franco-culturelle de Hay River

Simon Lepage

Primarily in the services sector.

3:05 p.m.

Bloc

Monique Guay Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

And what kind of services are we talking about?

3:05 p.m.

Chairman of the Board of Directors, Conseil de développement économique des Territoires du Nord-Ouest

François Pitre

I used to do translation. A lot of people work in the restaurant and construction industries or provide services of that nature.

3:05 p.m.

Bloc

Monique Guay Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

I would like to know whether there are any private French-language schools.

3:05 p.m.

Chairman of the Board of Directors, Conseil de développement économique des Territoires du Nord-Ouest

François Pitre

No, we are not lucky enough to have one of those.