Evidence of meeting #46 for Official Languages in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was yellowknife.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Alain Bessette  Manager, Éditions franco-ténoises, Aquilon et la Société Radio Taïga
François Pitre  Chairman of the Board of Directors, Conseil de développement économique des Territoires du Nord-Ouest
Justin Carey  President, Association franco-culturelle de Hay River
Simon Lepage  Vice-President, Association franco-culturelle de Hay River
Jean de Dieu Tuyishime  Director, Réseau Territoires du Nord-Ouest Santé en français, Fédération Franco-Ténoise
Sylvie Francoeur  Executive Director, Conseil de développement économique des Territoires du Nord-Ouest
Marie-Pierre Dupont  Garderie Plein Soleil
Suzette Montreuil  Chair, Commission scolaire francophone des Territoires du Nord-Ouest
Marie Coderre  Executive Director, Culture, Association franco-culturelle de Yellowknife
Rachelle Francoeur  Coordinator, Jeunesse Territoires du Nord-Ouest, Fédération Franco-Ténoise
Marc Bilodeau  President, Association des parents ayants droit de Yellowknife
Philippe Brûlot  Superintendent, Commission scolaire francophone des Territoires du Nord-Ouest

2:45 p.m.

Vice-President, Association franco-culturelle de Hay River

Simon Lepage

That's possible.

2:45 p.m.

Bloc

Monique Guay Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

Is there no one representing the Francophone community?

2:45 p.m.

Vice-President, Association franco-culturelle de Hay River

2:45 p.m.

Bloc

Monique Guay Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

It would be a good idea for you to have at least one elected representative. Otherwise, you have no way of ensuring your representation, other than through constant challenges. You practically have to beg. It's really not very nice to be in that position.

2:45 p.m.

Vice-President, Association franco-culturelle de Hay River

Simon Lepage

No, that's true, and that is one of the reasons for the higher turnover among Francophones. If you want to stay, you have to fight.

2:45 p.m.

Bloc

Monique Guay Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

And you say that people don't do that.

2:45 p.m.

Vice-President, Association franco-culturelle de Hay River

Simon Lepage

That's right.

The reason I'm fighting is because, if we decide to stay, I want there to be something for my son. I could simply decide that we won't stay, that we're going to get out and that I'm not going to fight.

2:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Steven Blaney

Thank you very much, Ms. Guay.

This time, we really are going to hear from Mr. Godin.

2:45 p.m.

Bloc

Monique Guay Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

The one and only.

February 9th, 2011 / 2:45 p.m.

NDP

Yvon Godin NDP Acadie—Bathurst, NB

Definitely the one, without an accent.

First of all, I would like to welcome you to our committee. It is really great to hear your comments and to see the differences in needs from one region to the next.

With respect to economic development and FedNor, if I'm not mistaken, you said that you would like to receive services in French. Is that because you are not currently receiving any?

2:45 p.m.

Chairman of the Board of Directors, Conseil de développement économique des Territoires du Nord-Ouest

François Pitre

Not consistently.

2:45 p.m.

NDP

Yvon Godin NDP Acadie—Bathurst, NB

Please don't touch your mikes; someone is being paid to that. We don't want to take work away from anyone. It's all part of economic development.

2:45 p.m.

Voices

Ah, ah!

2:45 p.m.

Chairman of the Board of Directors, Conseil de développement économique des Territoires du Nord-Ouest

François Pitre

Yes, it is CanNor, and that agency only came into being in August of 2009. That is why we are still having a lot of trouble securing equal services in French. At this point, we don't have any.

2:45 p.m.

NDP

Yvon Godin NDP Acadie—Bathurst, NB

It's fine to try to achieve equality, but you say that if a Francophone company—you said there are as many as 80 Francophone businesses here—wants to increase their staff and create jobs, they cannot receive services in French from FedNor. Did you never consider the idea of lodging a complaint with the Commissioner of Official Languages?

2:45 p.m.

Chairman of the Board of Directors, Conseil de développement économique des Territoires du Nord-Ouest

François Pitre

Our executive director has more involvement in that.

2:45 p.m.

Sylvie Francoeur Executive Director, Conseil de développement économique des Territoires du Nord-Ouest

The agency we come under here in the Northwest Territories is CanNor.

2:45 p.m.

NDP

Yvon Godin NDP Acadie—Bathurst, NB

CanNor?

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Executive Director, Conseil de développement économique des Territoires du Nord-Ouest

Sylvie Francoeur

FedNor is in Ontario, I believe. Here, it's CanNor.

At this point, funding--

2:45 p.m.

NDP

Yvon Godin NDP Acadie—Bathurst, NB

CanNor means “Canada North”?

2:45 p.m.

Executive Director, Conseil de développement économique des Territoires du Nord-Ouest

Sylvie Francoeur

It is the Canadian Northern Economic Development Agency.

2:45 p.m.

NDP

Yvon Godin NDP Acadie—Bathurst, NB

Is it federal?

2:45 p.m.

Executive Director, Conseil de développement économique des Territoires du Nord-Ouest

Sylvie Francoeur

Yes, CanNor is the equivalent of FedNor, but for the three territories.

As Jean-François was saying, this agency was created in 2009, but at the present time, it has no funding program for business services, even though they are considered to be permanent. They cannot simply be random or made available under an annual project; it has to be a permanent service, and CanNor has no program at this time to fund that kind of service. We are the ones doing that. HRSDC enables us to do that, because CanNor is not yet positioned to offer that type of program.

2:45 p.m.

NDP

Yvon Godin NDP Acadie—Bathurst, NB

It was created in 2009. Do you mean that no thought was ever given to the fact that we live in a country with two official languages?

2:45 p.m.

Executive Director, Conseil de développement économique des Territoires du Nord-Ouest

Sylvie Francoeur

No, it's because of the program structure. There are services in French, yes, but it is the funding programs that pose a problem. The Agency has a vast array of programs, and yet there isn't one that funds permanent programs. It provides project funding. It doesn't have the right to fund programs or permanent or recurring activities and projects year after year. Nor can it provide core funding; so the government has to do what is needed to allow that to happen and approve the creation of a core funding program.

At our end, we engage in advocacy as well as doing a lot of lobbying, and we are slowly becoming a little more militant.