Evidence of meeting #46 for Official Languages in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was yellowknife.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Alain Bessette  Manager, Éditions franco-ténoises, Aquilon et la Société Radio Taïga
François Pitre  Chairman of the Board of Directors, Conseil de développement économique des Territoires du Nord-Ouest
Justin Carey  President, Association franco-culturelle de Hay River
Simon Lepage  Vice-President, Association franco-culturelle de Hay River
Jean de Dieu Tuyishime  Director, Réseau Territoires du Nord-Ouest Santé en français, Fédération Franco-Ténoise
Sylvie Francoeur  Executive Director, Conseil de développement économique des Territoires du Nord-Ouest
Marie-Pierre Dupont  Garderie Plein Soleil
Suzette Montreuil  Chair, Commission scolaire francophone des Territoires du Nord-Ouest
Marie Coderre  Executive Director, Culture, Association franco-culturelle de Yellowknife
Rachelle Francoeur  Coordinator, Jeunesse Territoires du Nord-Ouest, Fédération Franco-Ténoise
Marc Bilodeau  President, Association des parents ayants droit de Yellowknife
Philippe Brûlot  Superintendent, Commission scolaire francophone des Territoires du Nord-Ouest

2:40 p.m.

Vice-President, Association franco-culturelle de Hay River

Simon Lepage

They also attend the daycare centre. But that really isn't enough.

2:40 p.m.

Bloc

Monique Guay Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

If both parents work, they absolutely need daycare.

2:40 p.m.

Vice-President, Association franco-culturelle de Hay River

Simon Lepage

That's right. If we want our children to learn French at home, one of the two parents has to stay home.

2:40 p.m.

Bloc

Monique Guay Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

And you don't want to create a ghetto either.

2:40 p.m.

Vice-President, Association franco-culturelle de Hay River

Simon Lepage

Exactly. In the Territories, there are some interesting activities which are organized for children outside of the daycare setting. We don't want to deprive our children of these activities, so we participate, but everything obviously takes place in English. I speak French to my son at home, but on the outside, we don't use French. All the other Francophone children are in the same position.

2:40 p.m.

Bloc

Monique Guay Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

So, he speaks English when he is involved in outside activities. Otherwise it is very difficult to preserve his language.

2:40 p.m.

Vice-President, Association franco-culturelle de Hay River

Simon Lepage

It's extremely difficult. In my case, it's even more difficult because my wife is English-speaking and has a tendency to return to her mother tongue; however, families where both parents are Francophones also have to make a determined effort.

I even know of a family that has been living in the NWT for six or seven years and whose two children, who are now both teenagers, have difficulty speaking French.

2:40 p.m.

Bloc

Monique Guay Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

We saw your Language Commissioner for the Northwest Territories this morning, and she doesn't speak French. Do you have any contact with her and do you talk to her about the status of French?

2:40 p.m.

Vice-President, Association franco-culturelle de Hay River

Simon Lepage

I, personally, have never done that.

2:40 p.m.

Director, Réseau Territoires du Nord-Ouest Santé en français, Fédération Franco-Ténoise

Jean de Dieu Tuyishime

I met her more than once in Inuvik. We met with her in Inuvik and we also talked about our Francophone reality, particularly with respect to health care. She also talked to us about what First Nations people are facing.

2:40 p.m.

Bloc

Monique Guay Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

Yes, we also heard about what it's like for the aboriginal population, but you have your own reality, and I think an effort should be made in that regard.

2:40 p.m.

A voice

Yes.

2:40 p.m.

Bloc

Monique Guay Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

Our Commissioner of Official Languages speaks both languages and has a perfect command of both languages, French and English.

2:40 p.m.

Vice-President, Association franco-culturelle de Hay River

Simon Lepage

That would certainly help.

2:40 p.m.

Bloc

Monique Guay Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

I imagine that when you hold meetings, you have to have an interpreter there in order to communicate with the Commissioner. That is somewhat surprising.

2:40 p.m.

Director, Réseau Territoires du Nord-Ouest Santé en français, Fédération Franco-Ténoise

Jean de Dieu Tuyishime

The meetings take place in English.

2:40 p.m.

Bloc

Monique Guay Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

The meetings are in English, but if someone does not speak English, that is a problem.

And there is also a problem in the school setting. You only have one school, which covers both the primary and secondary levels. You say there are 100--

2:40 p.m.

Vice-President, Association franco-culturelle de Hay River

Simon Lepage

There are 123 students.

2:40 p.m.

Bloc

Monique Guay Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

Is there sufficient demand for there to be more?

2:40 p.m.

Vice-President, Association franco-culturelle de Hay River

Simon Lepage

Yes, the demand is there. The daycare would help to increase the number of students that attend school which, in turn, would improve the quality of education. Furthermore, if the NWT government were meeting its obligations, we would have a better school. School board officials you will be hearing from this evening will address that with you. They are currently in court to see that their rights are respected, because it is clear that the government is racist and is stubbornly refusing--

2:45 p.m.

Bloc

Monique Guay Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

There is a French-language daycare centre in Whitehorse. In fact, there is a waiting list. The phone never stops ringing.

2:45 p.m.

Vice-President, Association franco-culturelle de Hay River

Simon Lepage

Yes, we have a study--

2:45 p.m.

Bloc

Monique Guay Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

The children keep going after that and attend the French school.

Now these people are in court.

2:45 p.m.

Vice-President, Association franco-culturelle de Hay River

Simon Lepage

Yes.

Our market study is ready. It was commissioned by the Francophone association, which is hoping to have a daycare. We are ready. The need if there. It has been documented. All that is lacking is the funding, because you don't get very far with only $60,000.

2:45 p.m.

Bloc

Monique Guay Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

No, that is not enough.

I note that there are 19 members of the Legislative Assembly and that they are practically all aboriginal, if I'm not mistaken.