Evidence of meeting #46 for Official Languages in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was yellowknife.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Alain Bessette  Manager, Éditions franco-ténoises, Aquilon et la Société Radio Taïga
François Pitre  Chairman of the Board of Directors, Conseil de développement économique des Territoires du Nord-Ouest
Justin Carey  President, Association franco-culturelle de Hay River
Simon Lepage  Vice-President, Association franco-culturelle de Hay River
Jean de Dieu Tuyishime  Director, Réseau Territoires du Nord-Ouest Santé en français, Fédération Franco-Ténoise
Sylvie Francoeur  Executive Director, Conseil de développement économique des Territoires du Nord-Ouest
Marie-Pierre Dupont  Garderie Plein Soleil
Suzette Montreuil  Chair, Commission scolaire francophone des Territoires du Nord-Ouest
Marie Coderre  Executive Director, Culture, Association franco-culturelle de Yellowknife
Rachelle Francoeur  Coordinator, Jeunesse Territoires du Nord-Ouest, Fédération Franco-Ténoise
Marc Bilodeau  President, Association des parents ayants droit de Yellowknife
Philippe Brûlot  Superintendent, Commission scolaire francophone des Territoires du Nord-Ouest

3:05 p.m.

Bloc

Monique Guay Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

I understand, and the reason I ask is not that I'm in favour of private schools. I ask the question simply because it has not been asked thus far.

So, there are two small schools.

3:05 p.m.

Chairman of the Board of Directors, Conseil de développement économique des Territoires du Nord-Ouest

François Pitre

Yes, there is l'École Allain St-Cyr and the Hay River school.

3:05 p.m.

Bloc

Monique Guay Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

As for CED Canada, I can't get over the fact that it isn't any more developed than that. Yet the program has been in place for a long time.

3:05 p.m.

Chairman of the Board of Directors, Conseil de développement économique des Territoires du Nord-Ouest

François Pitre

First of all, they didn't realize the distances that were involved. There are three time zones here. It is practically impossible to travel from Iqaluit to Whitehorse in the same day. These are things they forgot about when they set this up. Setting up an office in Iqaluit is all well and good—it's close to Ottawa—but there is nothing to buy, everything is taken, and there is no room to set anything up. Maybe it should have gone elsewhere in the meantime.

3:05 p.m.

Bloc

Monique Guay Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

Here as well, in Yellowknife, we were told--

3:05 p.m.

Chairman of the Board of Directors, Conseil de développement économique des Territoires du Nord-Ouest

François Pitre

Here they have offices, but over there, they didn't have any at all, because Nunavut became an independent territory in 1999.

3:05 p.m.

Bloc

Monique Guay Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

I find that extremely worrisome. As you know, we will be making a report when we return to Ottawa. We have learned a lot in a short span of time. I think we will be able to present a unanimous report. In any case, we will be discussing these issues. And we will also be talking to the federal government about this, because it makes no sense that you do not have access to these basic services. In my opinion, it's unacceptable.

As a Quebecker, I can tell you that even Anglophones in Quebec are treated better. They have their own institutions, their own schools and their own hospitals. They can live their lives in their own language without the slightest problem, whereas here, you have to fight tooth and nail, as the saying goes.

3:10 p.m.

Chairman of the Board of Directors, Conseil de développement économique des Territoires du Nord-Ouest

François Pitre

You really have to want to be a Francophone outside Quebec. I have two children. One lives in Montreal, and the other, in Ottawa. They were born here and they went to the French-language school, but when they entered high school, I sent them to Pointe-au-Chêne.

3:10 p.m.

Bloc

Monique Guay Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

And there is no university either. So, they have to leave.

3:10 p.m.

Chairman of the Board of Directors, Conseil de développement économique des Territoires du Nord-Ouest

François Pitre

No, there is no university. We have a college, but it doesn't offer any programs in French.

3:10 p.m.

Bloc

Monique Guay Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

There is a college, but it doesn't offer university level courses. It's like a CEGEP, basically.

3:10 p.m.

Chairman of the Board of Directors, Conseil de développement économique des Territoires du Nord-Ouest

François Pitre

Not even. They would have to take distance courses provided by an accredited school. That's the problem.

3:10 p.m.

Bloc

Monique Guay Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

We were told that there are correspondence courses.

3:10 p.m.

Chairman of the Board of Directors, Conseil de développement économique des Territoires du Nord-Ouest

François Pitre

But there again, if you don't have a tutor, it's difficult.

3:10 p.m.

Bloc

Monique Guay Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

You need someone who can--

3:10 p.m.

Chairman of the Board of Directors, Conseil de développement économique des Territoires du Nord-Ouest

François Pitre

Distance education is not easy.

3:10 p.m.

Bloc

Monique Guay Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

Yes, I can certainly understand that and I don't think it's very effective either.

3:10 p.m.

Chairman of the Board of Directors, Conseil de développement économique des Territoires du Nord-Ouest

François Pitre

There is no tutor, so--

3:10 p.m.

Bloc

Monique Guay Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

I sincerely hope you will be able to secure a French-language daycare centre so that you can continue your different [Inaudible--Editor].

3:10 p.m.

Chairman of the Board of Directors, Conseil de développement économique des Territoires du Nord-Ouest

François Pitre

There is one in Yellowknife; but not in Aklavik.

3:10 p.m.

Bloc

Monique Guay Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

And you don't have one either. So, you need to have one. The distances are so considerable and the territory is so huge that it simply isn't possible to concentrate everything in one place.

3:10 p.m.

Chairman of the Board of Directors, Conseil de développement économique des Territoires du Nord-Ouest

François Pitre

In Yellowknife, there is an immersion program.

3:10 p.m.

Bloc

Monique Guay Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

We came from Whitehorse last night. It's far.

3:10 p.m.

Chairman of the Board of Directors, Conseil de développement économique des Territoires du Nord-Ouest

François Pitre

It's 1,000 miles every time.

3:10 p.m.

Bloc

Monique Guay Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

I wish you the best of success and I hope things will work out. I would like to make a quick suggestion as a member of Parliament. I have been through six elections. I was elected for the first time 17 years ago. I suggest you do a little more promotion and that you try to have at least one Francophone member in the NWT legislature who will support your cause. You can campaign--