The question of "by" and "for" is very important for us.
The Department of Immigration obviously handles immigration. That is its field; that is what it does, and we understand that. Our organization does not just deal with immigration. However, it is takes an interest in the question in order to contribute to the development of francophone communities. We take in people because they want to contribute to and live in our communities. This is a society-building project, which is really very different.
When we talk to the immigration department about a similar project for society, its officials tell us they are concerned about immigration issues. Consequently, we have to make them understand and work with us so that this tool, which is immigration, is used to develop communities and a project for society. This falls somewhat outside their usual role, and I understand that. However, if we are unable to break that impasse and make it so the department becomes a support in achieving that objective, then we will go round in circles and wind up with the figures we expect and our percentages will not increase.