Evidence of meeting #118 for Official Languages in the 44th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.

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The Chair Liberal René Arseneault

Madam Gladu, I completely understood your proposed modification for the first sentence of the first paragraph.

About the third paragraph, can you repeat it? I just want to make sure it's not the same thing that we just dealt with.

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12:20 p.m.

Conservative

Marilyn Gladu Conservative Sarnia—Lambton, ON

It is, “That the committee accepts that the MP for Brantford—Brant apologized in the House”, and then strike the last one. It's similar, but not exactly the same.

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The Chair Liberal René Arseneault

People have raised their hands to speak to the proposed amendment.

Mr. Lightbound, you have the floor.

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Joël Lightbound Liberal Louis-Hébert, QC

Has Ms. Gladu finished speaking?

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The Chair Liberal René Arseneault

Are you done, Ms. Gladu, with your amendment?

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Joël Lightbound Liberal Louis-Hébert, QC

We are debating the amendment proposed by Ms. Gladu.

Is that correct?

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The Chair Liberal René Arseneault

Yes, that's right.

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Joël Lightbound Liberal Louis-Hébert, QC

We're therefore debating it as long as it's in order. It is quite similar to the one the committee just put to a vote, after all.

I'd like to say a few words about what the member just said. I have enormous respect for her, and I think she is one of the voices of reason in the House and certainly at this committee.

She said it was vindictive and small-minded, but I'd like to remind her of something. Even though she and I were not on the committee, in the case of Mr. Drouin—about whom Mr. Godin spoke to us at length—after he apologized repeatedly, the Conservatives practically wanted him tarred and feathered. That's barely an exaggeration.

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Barely.

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Joël Lightbound Liberal Louis-Hébert, QC

In my opinion, in this case, it could be said that there's a double standard.

Ms. Gladu also mentioned that she didn't like us to paint all Conservative members with the same brush. To that, I would respond with a proverb, “Silence implies consent.” What we witnessed last Thursday with Mr. Brock's behaviour was silence from the members from Quebec. They were somewhat embarrassed and sat back. They said nothing. Even today, before the committee, they are unable to acknowledge that there was reason to apologize and that this behaviour should be condemned. I'm talking about asking another member to speak in a language other than their mother tongue, that is, in this case, French.

Those are essentially the points I wanted to raise.

I would encourage members to vote against Ms. Gladu's amendment.

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The Chair Liberal René Arseneault

Mr. Godin, you have the floor.

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12:20 p.m.

Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

We're debating—

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The Chair Liberal René Arseneault

We're debating Ms. Gladu's amendment.

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Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

All right.

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An hon. member

Have we received it?

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The Chair Liberal René Arseneault

Mr. Godin, you may continue. I will rule after your remarks.

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Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

Have we received it?

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The Chair Liberal René Arseneault

No, we have not.

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Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

We should wait until we receive it before commenting.

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Joël Lightbound Liberal Louis-Hébert, QC

Mr. Chair, I forgot to mention at the end of my remarks that the amendment is out of order because the committee has already ruled on essentially the same thing.

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Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

Mr. Chair, had you recognized Mr. Lightbound?

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The Chair Liberal René Arseneault

Just a moment, Mr. Godin. I believe Mr. Lightbound has a point of order.

Mr. Godin, are you asking that the meeting be suspended?

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12:20 p.m.

Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

Yes, I am, because we can't work until we have the document in front of us.

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It's the same thing.

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The Chair Liberal René Arseneault

It's not exactly the same. We will suspend while the clerk sends us the text of Ms. Gladu's proposed amendment.

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