Official Languages Committee on Oct. 30th, 2023

[The Chair, Liberal, René Arseneault]

That is clearly a question. Is that right?

[Larry Brock, Conservative, Brantford—Brant, ON]

I was repeating the same question.

[The Chair, Liberal, René Arseneault]

Yes, I agree. We are saying the same thing.

[Larry Brock, Conservative, Brantford—Brant, ON]

Right.

[The Chair, Liberal, René Arseneault]

Okay, but that is not related to the present study.

[Larry Brock, Conservative, Brantford—Brant, ON]

Then I have a related question, Chair.

[The Chair, Liberal, René Arseneault]

But that was not one.

[Larry Brock, Conservative, Brantford—Brant, ON]

I repeated the same question that the Liberals interfered with, Chair.

[The Chair, Liberal, René Arseneault]

Just a minute...

[Larry Brock, Conservative, Brantford—Brant, ON]

Whether you allow the commissioner to respond or not—

[The Chair, Liberal, René Arseneault]

Just a minute, Mr. Brock. I'm sorry, but in all good faith, I allowed you to continue. You have heard the concerns about the questions you were asking. You have now asked a clear question. We definitely heard you. Your question is not related to this study and that was precisely the reason for the first point of order.

Do you want to ask the witness a question that relates to this study? I am asking that you show the same courtesy as you are asking from the Liberals across from you. Can you tell me, courteously, that you have questions to ask the witness concerning this study?

[Larry Brock, Conservative, Brantford—Brant, ON]

Yes.

[The Chair, Liberal, René Arseneault]

If not, there are colleagues beside you who could ask questions.

[Larry Brock, Conservative, Brantford—Brant, ON]

Yes, I do.

[The Chair, Liberal, René Arseneault]

You have the floor, then.

[Larry Brock, Conservative, Brantford—Brant, ON]

Commissioner, how many fully bilingual officers were part of the investigative team on the SNC scandal?

[Commr Michael Duheme]

Mr. Chair, I don't have the exact number. The lead investigator, who was here last Monday, is bilingual, but I'm more than happy to circle back—

[Larry Brock, Conservative, Brantford—Brant, ON]

What is that person's name?

[Commr Michael Duheme]

Staff Sergeant Frédéric Pincince.

[Larry Brock, Conservative, Brantford—Brant, ON]

Was he the lead investigator?

[Commr Michael Duheme]

I believe he was the lead investigator on the file.

[Larry Brock, Conservative, Brantford—Brant, ON]

How many other members were on his team?

[Commr Michael Duheme]

I'd have to get back to you as to how many people were actually assigned to that file as a group.

[Larry Brock, Conservative, Brantford—Brant, ON]

Was he specifically assigned to speak to French-speaking witnesses only?

[Commr Michael Duheme]

As I said, I'd have to circle back. The whole speed, flow and direction of the investigation were dictated by the lead investigator.