I'll stop you there because that's my point.
I agree that this is necessary. However, we need to take a broader view. They shouldn't be let off the hook based on this alone. That said, it provides a foundation that can be used to gather very concrete and useful data for measuring results.
Now, I want to go back to what you said.
In your opinion, we need to look at existing programs, and there are many programs. We need to do it, but it's an incredible undertaking. Reviewing all of our programs through this lens will take several years.
However, we can already take advantage of the data from GBA plus. It might be relevant to say that, for all new programs, whether it's Build Canada Homes or the programs we're setting up in the defence sector, it's urgent to ensure that their analysis is based on this data to see what we can do.
For departments that don't have those new programs, we have to look at priorities by measuring the impact on what's been done in the past. This can be done using the data. It allows all departments to look at what needs to be done. This prevents people from just checking a box. It makes it possible to move forward and improve things in relation to everything that's coming. We need to set priorities in all existing programs and target what more we can do, based on GBA plus data.