Yes, I can add on the testing.
Right now, the way the contract is set is that there is a provision for about an hour of non-interpreting time that includes tests, breaks or pauses for different reasons, four hours of active interpretation time at the mike and a provision for if we go over the time.
When we go over by 21 minutes, we're looking at a daily fee. If we go over by 46 minutes, we're looking at double the daily fee of the interpreter. We're looking at that. This is the cost in mind.
In terms of fair pay, I would say that the pay is fair in that respect, and we're also taking into consideration their preparation. It's how they submit their price. That is all taken into account in their daily rate, but active interpretation is about four hours. They are paid for the equivalent of four hours irrespective of the number of hours that they work. If they do one hour or four, they are paid the same rate.