I agree with what you said. Then for April 20, can I suggest that group two, I'll call it, be moved into the group three section? I personally think that's a group for which there may be some extra reason for us.... If Deb Gillis ends up coming, she will be coming in from New York. That's a long way. She has lots of international experience. Mary Cornish has been writing about this for decades. There's also the Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives.
It would be my preference that these witnesses move into group three. Then for the May 2 meeting—