Thank you. I think we'll rewind a little. I'm a bit long-winded at the best of times, so the witnesses can excuse the delay.
I asked a question earlier about the transparency and the accountability framework. I recognize that if all we were talking about was just that every four years it would be looked at, I totally sympathize. I actually think we should be going with what Ms. Rochon-Perras and Mr. Richard have said. There should be alternative dispute resolution processes, and they should be more flexible, so there should be a committee.
But going back to that, if every employee understands what the pay equity situation is, and then something comes up and it is not dealt with, I know who to hold accountable.
What's wrong with a member being able to hold the government, in this case—because they are the employer—and the union accountable for not being able to address an issue?