Great. I'm going to share my time with Ms. Nassif.
I wanted to say something to Ms. Byers. You've mentioned this point a couple of times, Ms. Byers, around how many women for so long haven't been paid equally and the impact this has had, not only on our economy but on their lives. I want to let you know that I'm also appalled by that and the fact that it was in 1977 that we made pay equity a human right in this country, and it's taken us so long to do nothing. I'm delighted to get a chance to hopefully put a nail in the coffin.
My question is to you and to Ms. Smallman. What do you see as the role or the roles of unions in proactive pay equity legislation at the federal level? What's the role specifically you would see unions playing? I know we've been dancing around a number of different things, but if you could tell me what you believe from your perspective.