Yes, there are examples, and there's no denying they took a long time, and that's not great. We would like to see that improve. What we do wonder about is whether there are things we could consider to speed up those processes, to accelerate them, to make them more efficient, rather than throwing it all out.
We do see—and the StatsCan data from earlier this afternoon verified this—that the gap is narrowing. Do we still have a problem? Absolutely, and it is one that we need to address. Representing our member organizations, it's certainly one that we take seriously and want to address because it's the right thing to do, but we're not sure that throwing it all out because it takes a long time or it costs a lot is the best approach. We have mechanisms in place, structures in place, infrastructure in place, processes in place that people understand.
What we think we need to do is put our heads together and make those processes better, because the evidence is not clear that going another route is necessarily going to be any better. It's definitely going to be more costly and cumbersome, and there's going to be a whole new bureaucracy that we'll all have to learn how to use.
We do think there's potential. As I said in my presentation, we'd like to be a part of that solution. We think 21st century employers get this and are already putting mechanisms in place, and Marina has referred to them. We certainly have examples from our member companies as well to address these gaps and to make this better.