I think one of the difficulties we have in the federal sphere is that we have one extraordinarily large employer. We have a number of crown corporations, many of whom, I would say, are following good practices. I would humbly suggest the federal employer has fallen behind. The last time it looked at pay equity was 1985 to 1989. In the meantime, their tools for valuing work date from the 1960s generally. They do not measure skills, efforts, responsibilities, and working conditions, all of them. They don't.
There are perhaps six in all that comply with pay equity legislation out of 72. I don't know whether that's the tail of the dog because it's such a large employer, but I would say that is a major challenge that requires a focus on the part of the federal employer that will only come through legislation.