Evidence of meeting #53 for Public Accounts in the 39th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was investigation.
A recording is available from Parliament.
Liberal
Borys Wrzesnewskyj Liberal Etobicoke Centre, ON
Why would you have kept a copy of this particular document?
As an Individual
I kept this copy and I also kept a copy of the memo I had written. I had written a memo to the OIC of the day, who was Superintendent Lavoie, about the unethical conduct, in my opinion, of Deputy Gauvin's involvement with the files, because it's highly unusual to be put in that situation.
At the time when I left, I was frustrated with the way things were going. I had a feeling this might come at some point, so I kept my notes and kept copies of my documents, what I had done.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Shawn Murphy
Before we go any further, does this document relate to the issues that are before the committee?
Liberal
Liberal
Borys Wrzesnewskyj Liberal Etobicoke Centre, ON
There's another point of order. We've just heard reference that documents that were perhaps part of the package I previously requested at this committee--that files have gone missing. I'm in a bit of a quandary about how we should proceed in these circumstances.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Shawn Murphy
Let's deal with the first issue first.
So you're going to table the documents you have with you now.
As an Individual
I have a copy of the memo I had written about Deputy Gauvin. I can table that.
Liberal
Conservative
John Williams Conservative Edmonton—St. Albert, AB
I think when Ms. Ravine was talking to Mr. Christopherson she also made reference to an e-mail that should be tabled.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Shawn Murphy
That e-ail may have already been tabled. Was it not tabled? I'll get you to table that also, Ms. Ravine.
Public Service Employee, Royal Canadian Mounted Police
It hasn't been translated.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Shawn Murphy
Just table it with the clerk and he will look after having it translated. We'll have it circulated to the committee.
The second issue is the saga of the missing documents. Your allegation to Mr. Estabrooks is that there were documents that ought to have been in the file but for some reason weren't in the file.
As an Individual
That's correct. When I went back, the A5 that I wrote should have been there, because it was dated and noted to that file, and it wasn't there.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Shawn Murphy
So somebody took the A5 that was supposed to be in the file out of the file, but we're going to get it right now.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Shawn Murphy
That's fine. But were there other documents in the file that, you're aware of?
As an Individual
I understand from a recent telephone conversation with the access to information investigator who's currently investigating the delay in this file that a document is missing that I wasn't aware of. It's apparently another A5 that I had prepared for the OIC, and it's not in the file. So they are questioning where that is at the present time. However, I do not have a copy of that.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Shawn Murphy
For the benefit of the people around this table, does the term A5 have any significance? What does A5 mean?
As an Individual
An A5 is an inter-office transit slip. It can be either typed or handwritten. A “pink slip” is another name for it--not the one where they get rid of you, but it's a pink form.
Conservative
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Shawn Murphy
We will follow up with the clerk on the missing documents and have people back here before us to follow up on that. We'll have to get a very clear explanation as to why that occurred. So we'll get those documents tabled.
Ms. Sgro.
Liberal
Judy Sgro Liberal York West, ON
Just to clarify, I believe several weeks ago the committee requested the eight or nine files noted in Mr. Wrzesnewskyj's motion. Have we not received any of those files to date?