Mr. Lewis had explained that too.
I have a couple of questions before we go to round two.
Mr. Spice, your name has been mentioned before, and no doubt you're following the committee's proceedings. There have been a number of members who certainly feel, and I think it's supported, that their career has suffered as a result of them coming forward: Fraser Macaulay, Mike Frizzell, and Denise Revine. I understand some of those people went to you initially with some of their concerns.