First of all, Mr. Gauvin's not the only one who has used words I think were inappropriate. “Collusion”, “corrupt”, “fraud” have been used by a number of individuals in this committee towards me, which to me represent personal attacks and have been personal attacks. I've been unable to defend myself because of it.
That being said, I have no prior anything with these companies. I don't know these companies other than business-wise. For Morneau Sobeco, I was pretty much gone when they started doing the work. I wouldn't know if they're doing a good job or a great job. From Great-West Life's perspective, Peter Foley was right: the contract is between Peter Foley and Morneau Sobeco. I did not direct them to hire Morneau Sobeco.