Public Accounts committee  We just thought the numbers were sufficient to do the business case.

Public Accounts committee  Sorry, sorry, I recall saying “Those are the numbers we have; use them in your business case.” Yes, sorry.

Public Accounts committee  At the time, she thought the numbers were good enough, and we could move forward. It was an estimate; it was a business case estimate we would have in our pockets and move forward with.

Public Accounts committee  I don't recall saying that, sir.

Public Accounts committee  We thought the numbers were....

Public Accounts committee  As a director I was responsible. But I couldn't keep my finger on everything, as I explained.

Public Accounts committee  I tried my best.

Public Accounts committee  I tried my best, sir.

Public Accounts committee  No. As Mr. Frizzell suggested here, they were signed off by the procurement people. They issued the contracts.

Public Accounts committee  I don't know why I wouldn't have authority to say that was the type of work that needed to be done.

Public Accounts committee  I approved the work.

Public Accounts committee  I don't know.

Public Accounts committee  In terms of the type of work that needed to be done--yes.

Public Accounts committee  I accept that I was signing that this was the work to be done. From a financial perspective, I was not aware that I was signing anything--

Public Accounts committee  First of all, I've answered this question before. There was a clause, which was requested by our security people, that the data not leave the country. That's why most of those companies fell by the wayside. They process their data in the U.S. The second company that bid and subse