Evidence of meeting #66 for Public Accounts in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was rcmp.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Pat Casey  As an Individual
Jeff Molson  As an Individual
Francine Pell  Morneau Sobeco
Dominic Crupi  As an Individual
Garry Roy  Senior Policy Analyst, Disability Program & Services, Royal Canadian Mounted Police
Commissioner David Gork  Assistant Commissioner, Royal Canadian Mounted Police
Peter Foley  Great-West Life Assurance Company
Jeff Kitchen  Great-West Life Assurance Company
Frank Pattie  (Retired), Great-West Life Assurance Company
Sergeant Mike Frizzell  Staff Sergeant, Strategic and Operational Support, National Child Exploitation Coordination Centre, Royal Canadian Mounted Police
Superintendent Fraser Macaulay  Chief Superintendent, Royal Canadian Mounted Police

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Conservative

John Williams Conservative Edmonton—St. Albert, AB

Okay. And you accepted that responsibility?

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As an Individual

Dominic Crupi

I tried my best, sir.

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Conservative

John Williams Conservative Edmonton—St. Albert, AB

You were issuing these contracts to Consulting and Audit Canada in the amounts of $2.5 million, $3 million, and $4 million. You approved those contracts?

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As an Individual

Dominic Crupi

No. As Mr. Frizzell suggested here, they were signed off by the procurement people. They issued the contracts.

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Conservative

John Williams Conservative Edmonton—St. Albert, AB

Yours was the first signature on the sheet.

June 12th, 2007 / 5:30 p.m.

As an Individual

Dominic Crupi

In terms of the type of work that needed to be done--yes.

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Conservative

John Williams Conservative Edmonton—St. Albert, AB

Okay. But you didn't have authority to do that.

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As an Individual

Dominic Crupi

I don't know why I wouldn't have authority to say that was the type of work that needed to be done.

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Conservative

John Williams Conservative Edmonton—St. Albert, AB

But Mr. Gauvin testified that you exceeded your contracting authority.

Mr. Frizzell, did you find that he exceeded his contracting authority?

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S/Sgt Mike Frizzell

In the document you just tabled, Mr. Crupi signed for $2.5 million.

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Conservative

John Williams Conservative Edmonton—St. Albert, AB

That was the contract authorization.

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S/Sgt Mike Frizzell

It was.

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Conservative

John Williams Conservative Edmonton—St. Albert, AB

Okay.

You signed a contract. Yours was the first signature.

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Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Brian Fitzpatrick

Last question, Mr. Williams.

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Conservative

John Williams Conservative Edmonton—St. Albert, AB

Okay.

Yours was the first signature on a contract authorization that totalled about $2.5 million. Do you accept that?

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As an Individual

Dominic Crupi

I accept that I was signing that this was the work to be done. From a financial perspective, I was not aware that I was signing anything--

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Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Brian Fitzpatrick

You approved the work.

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As an Individual

Dominic Crupi

I approved the work.

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Conservative

John Williams Conservative Edmonton—St. Albert, AB

Mr. Frizzell, was he approving the contract in that document I tabled earlier?

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Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Brian Fitzpatrick

Was the person who did the work named on that contract?

5:30 p.m.

As an Individual

Dominic Crupi

I don't know.

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Conservative

John Williams Conservative Edmonton—St. Albert, AB

Let's just find out what Staff Sergeant Frizzell has to say.

Was he approving a contract for $2.5 million?

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S/Sgt Mike Frizzell

The way the document was captioned, it appears he was approving the contract.

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Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Brian Fitzpatrick

Would the contractor be named on the contract?

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S/Sgt Mike Frizzell

Is the photocopy back yet?