Mr. Chairman, through you to Mr. Lake, yes, I am, actually. I think this hearing has been a very good hearing to shine a spotlight on a very important issue for this government. The other witnesses at the table certainly are working in an area that is important, and seem to be making progress. Mind you, the devil is in the details, so we'll have to see.
If I may, Mr. Chairman, I would just add two or three concluding thoughts. I do think we're poised to make a quantum leap forward. I think there's a very great need to have a driver for this greening of government operation. The chairman mentioned that earlier, and I certainly agree. When you think of that, PWGSC, in testimony today, indicated that they've been given the leadership role; if TBS, a very powerful central agency, can join them, that's a pretty potent driver. So we'll see whether that works out.
Clear expectations, I think, are needed, both for the government overall and for individual departments and agencies. As I understand it, there are expectations being developed now. There's a perfect opportunity to communicate those throughout government through the next round of special examinations guidance. So that's a good sign.
Lastly, we really have to know whether these expectations are being met. There must be some kind of public reporting. We've heard today that there is every indication, I think, to do the public reporting, hopefully in a more aggressive and more open way, through the departmental performance reports.
So a lot can be done with existing structures and existing people. I'm just very hopeful that with the support of this committee, that quantum leap will be made.