It may be a relative measure, in terms of where we started from, the efforts and the work that have been put into place, and the processes that have been put into place to address them.
In terms of the function of public health—and as Neil was saying, there are very complex, multi-sectoral kinds of things—for us, and for me, having done this a long time, the proof is in the pudding. While we work to get formal agreements and we work to get some of these things in place, which we continue to do, they don't come easily. The secret and the challenge is can you respond effectively at the time?
Back to your question, Mr. Christopherson, I look over the life of the agency now and the events we've dealt with, and how different they are today from what they were during SARS or before SARS: the identification in the case of polio; the identification of bird flu on farms and the engagement of CFI and others; the finding of the H2N2, which could have been the next pandemic, which we figured out and found and were able to work on with the Americans and others because they had sent it all around the world to track it down. And there was the listeria outbreak. There were many challenges around that, but fundamentally, from a surveillance standpoint, during the outbreak there were five extra cases of that in Canada a week—five cases a week—against a background of 20,000-plus of us with those symptoms every single day, and we were able to figure out not only that there was an outbreak but where it came from. That's very different. Five years ago that would never have happened.
And back to the DPR—