Evidence of meeting #104 for Public Accounts in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was deputy.

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MPs speaking

Also speaking

Michael Wernick  Clerk of the Privy Council and Secretary to the Cabinet, Privy Council Office
Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Angela Crandall

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

Alexandra Mendes Liberal Brossard—Saint-Lambert, QC

I move that the Standing Committee on Public Accounts invite the Auditor General for a further meeting of one hour on the message or chapter zero on June 14, 2018, and that we give instructions to the analysts on the committee's report on the AG's chapter zero.

That part would be in camera.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

There is nothing in that motion in regard to what Mr. Christopherson....

Is that what you meant?

5:25 p.m.

NDP

David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

We also still had one hour in there as opposed to equal time, but more importantly....

Surely we can find a meeting of the minds. Ideally, the 14th with the AG is the right thing to do, but I think the current thinking is that as long as we can merely postpone—to use Mr. Massé's word—from the 14th to the 19th what we currently have scheduled and if the AG is available on the 14th, that would give us the perfect timeline. If not, plan B would be that we stay with the deputies on the 14th and invite the AG for the 19th. I don't know if you take that as a separate—

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

This now becomes something we're going to have to look at in a more involved way in the committee business time. I've given my word to Mr. Wernick that he's going to have a closing statement, so can we defer the vote to immediately following this meeting?

5:25 p.m.

NDP

David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

Otherwise, we can just stay until Mr. Wernick is finished talking. I'm prepared to give him that. He gave it to us.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

All right.

5:25 p.m.

NDP

David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

Let's do our business and then hear from Mr. Wernick.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

Are we ready for the question?

5:25 p.m.

NDP

David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

I don't know.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

This is my point.

5:25 p.m.

NDP

David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

It's still all over the map. What the motion is and what I described are somewhat different.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

Alexandra Mendes Liberal Brossard—Saint-Lambert, QC

What I understood from you, Mr. Christopherson, if I understood correctly, is that we should give the same amount of time to the Auditor General as we did to Mr. Wernick.

5:30 p.m.

NDP

David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

Yes, I think so.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

Alexandra Mendes Liberal Brossard—Saint-Lambert, QC

I have no issue with that. If we finish earlier, then we can give instructions to the analysts. That's fine with me.

5:30 p.m.

NDP

David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

Okay. That's a minor amendment.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

Alexandra Mendes Liberal Brossard—Saint-Lambert, QC

The amendment would be to take the “one hour” part from my motion.

5:30 p.m.

NDP

David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

Okay. Then what about the order of the meetings, Madam?

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

Alexandra Mendes Liberal Brossard—Saint-Lambert, QC

Oh, no, absolutely, transfer the meetings. Mine is on June 14th.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

Let's call the question here.

5:30 p.m.

NDP

David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

I don't know what the question is, Mr. Chair.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

Alexandra Mendes Liberal Brossard—Saint-Lambert, QC

Mr. Chair—

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

The question is—

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

Alexandra Mendes Liberal Brossard—Saint-Lambert, QC

—that we invite him for the 14th. We know he's available, because he's coming for the minister.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

That's for the two hours, though.

5:30 p.m.

NDP

David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

If I may, Chair, that's assuming the deputy currently scheduled for the 14th can make the 19th. If not, then we stay with the deputy on the 14th and hope the AG can make it on the 19th.