Public Accounts Committee on June 12th, 2018

[Alexandra Mendes, Liberal, Brossard—Saint-Lambert, QC]

That will give us an idea of whether the AG would be available too.

[The Chair, Conservative, Kevin Sorenson]

The AG will be there as well.

[Alexandra Mendes, Liberal, Brossard—Saint-Lambert, QC]

That means he is available on the 14th.

[The Chair, Conservative, Kevin Sorenson]

He would be available.

We're then rescinding our invitation to two—

[Paul Lefebvre, Liberal, Sudbury, ON]

Are we changing it to the 19th?

[The Chair, Conservative, Kevin Sorenson]

The will of the committee initially was that we definitely wanted to have Phoenix before the break.

[Alexandra Mendes, Liberal, Brossard—Saint-Lambert, QC]

But we won't, because we don't have the former deputy minister. We won't have it.

[The Chair, Conservative, Kevin Sorenson]

No. Initially we wanted the deputy minister of Phoenix, the one, as Mr. McCauley said, who will be dealing with the culture.

[Alexandra Mendes, Liberal, Brossard—Saint-Lambert, QC]

Agreed, but we also added the Clerk of the Privy Council. We also added the former deputy minister. It's not a static wish of the committee. We've been evolving in this. This has not been a once done, as you say....

[David Christopherson, NDP, Hamilton Centre, ON]

A one-and-done.

[Alexandra Mendes, Liberal, Brossard—Saint-Lambert, QC]

—a one-and-done. It has been an evolving discussion since we've had the reports tabled.

For me it's a logical step. You deal with the message, which is chapter zero, and then you go to the other chapters. That's my—

[The Chair, Conservative, Kevin Sorenson]

Thank you.

I have Mr. Massé first.

[Alexandra Mendes, Liberal, Brossard—Saint-Lambert, QC]

Also, Mr. Wernick wants to have a closing statement.

[Rémi Massé, Liberal, Avignon—La Mitis—Matane—Matapédia, QC]

To me, what Mr. Christopherson has proposed in terms of steps is fully acceptable. We can see if we can postpone the deputy minister and Treasury Board Secretariat to the 19th. That's option one. If that doesn't work, then we can go back to option two, on the 14th. My preference would be to go with the process that Mr. Christopherson has put forward. It's fair and it's reasonable.

[The Chair, Conservative, Kevin Sorenson]

Thank you.

Did I have someone else on the speakers list after Mr. Massé?

[David Christopherson, NDP, Hamilton Centre, ON]

I was going to move the motion.

[The Chair, Conservative, Kevin Sorenson]

You can come back and move a motion. Oh, no, you cannot, because we've already had a motion moved. Is that correct? We already have a motion on the floor.

[Lisa Raitt, Conservative, Milton, ON]

Can we have a recorded vote, Mr. Chair?

[The Chair, Conservative, Kevin Sorenson]

The motion could be amended, but we have a motion on the floor, so I cannot take another motion.

[David Christopherson, NDP, Hamilton Centre, ON]

Can I make a motion later, please?

[Alexandra Mendes, Liberal, Brossard—Saint-Lambert, QC]

Could I—

[David Christopherson, NDP, Hamilton Centre, ON]

Modify it and see if we can do it in one.

[The Chair, Conservative, Kevin Sorenson]

Madam Mendès, are you moving the same motion?

[Alexandra Mendes, Liberal, Brossard—Saint-Lambert, QC]

Yes.

[The Chair, Conservative, Kevin Sorenson]

All right.