Public Accounts Committee on June 12th, 2018

[The Chair, Conservative, Kevin Sorenson]

That would be a separate motion—

[An hon. member]

Yes.

[The Chair, Conservative, Kevin Sorenson]

—because this motion does not refer at all to the other....

I have a feeling that what we're seeing is pushing the DM out of the 14th. I have heard nothing yet from the government in regard to inviting them here on the 19th, so that will leave us—

[Alexandra Mendes, Liberal, Brossard—Saint-Lambert, QC]

Well, no, because we thought we had the other DMs.

[The Chair, Conservative, Kevin Sorenson]

Well, we don't.

[Alexandra Mendes, Liberal, Brossard—Saint-Lambert, QC]

We just found out no, but that's what we had heard.

[The Chair, Conservative, Kevin Sorenson]

We don't have anyone else on the 19th.

[Alexandra Mendes, Liberal, Brossard—Saint-Lambert, QC]

You're pushing us into a no vote.

[David Christopherson, NDP, Hamilton Centre, ON]

We don't have a meeting of the minds. If we vote, we're going to divide. We haven't reached agreement yet.

[The Chair, Conservative, Kevin Sorenson]

There is no consensus.

[David Christopherson, NDP, Hamilton Centre, ON]

That's right.

[The Chair, Conservative, Kevin Sorenson]

That's why I've already been.... Ms. Raitt has asked for a recorded vote.

[David Christopherson, NDP, Hamilton Centre, ON]

That's why I think we should keep going. We're not there yet.

[Alexandra Mendes, Liberal, Brossard—Saint-Lambert, QC]

But why have we not—

[David Christopherson, NDP, Hamilton Centre, ON]

What Mr. Massé and I are saying is not reflected in the motion.

Mr. Massé, maybe you can help.

[The Chair, Conservative, Kevin Sorenson]

Go ahead, Mr. Massé.

[Rémi Massé, Liberal, Avignon—La Mitis—Matane—Matapédia, QC]

It's just a question. Maybe I'm confused. On the 19th, can we get the list of deputy ministers and associates that we have asked? We can have one, two, or three.

You're saying no, so we can't have any of them on the 19th?

[The Chair, Conservative, Kevin Sorenson]

None of them are available on the 19th.

[The Clerk of the Committee, Ms. Angela Crandall]

None of them, or they haven't responded.

[Alexandra Mendes, Liberal, Brossard—Saint-Lambert, QC]

What you would like to see is that on the 19th we would have the current deputy minister, the Auditor General, and the secretary of the Treasury Board.

[David Christopherson, NDP, Hamilton Centre, ON]

That's currently scheduled for the 14th. We move it to the 19th—

[Alexandra Mendes, Liberal, Brossard—Saint-Lambert, QC]

That moves to the 19th.

[David Christopherson, NDP, Hamilton Centre, ON]

—and the AG comes on the 14th. If either one can't do it, plan B would be to stay with the deputy on the 14th and invite the AG for the 19th.

[The Chair, Conservative, Kevin Sorenson]

Is that all right? I'm seeing the affirmative. The question...?

Go ahead, Mr. Arya.

[Chandra Arya, Liberal, Nepean, ON]

On a point of order, it's 5:30.