My comments are not about the public servants themselves. My comments are about the fact that I believe there is a culture problem that contributed to this. Again, yes, I agree with you on the two fundamental decision points that were the most obvious, that people could have identified that this was not going to work.
Yes, we talk about the senior executives, but the cultural problem, again, was that there was no oversight. There were other people who were aware of the problem. Again, the Treasury Board Secretariat decided to commission the Gartner report. There were departments that were saying this was not ready to work. The department originally planned to do four internal audits, and didn't do them. All of those things meant that there were other places where this problem could have been identified, but it wasn't. So I don't think you can just say that it was isolated to only two issues and three people.