Mr. Chair, maybe I could just add the department's perspective on value for money. I think what we thought mattered in the connect to innovate program was that we leveraged funds. As we mentioned early on, and as the Auditor General people referenced, was the one-to-one. We went from a $500 million investment to $1 billion. In assessing the projects, we also avoided overlap of activity, if you like, so that we ensured that if any one company was doing something, it wasn't covering into another area. Again, we were trying to fix a specific problem.
The issue of scale and technology is part of value for money, and our perspective is that this is a very important consideration. It's not just how you want to fix it today, but whether the companies involved in the projects actually develop investments that will develop the technology over time. It also has to do with the number of communities served as part of the value for money.
From our perspective, at any rate, it's not just dollars and competition of the private sector involved in the projects. It's also these other matters.