First, this is not just a matter of administrative culture. That is one of the factors, but there is also the issue of the tools that are used. I previously mentioned that the Department of National Defence used to have two systems for maintaining control of assets. It currently has only one. So that is a significant improvement. However, as Ms. Hogan mentioned, there is a problem with assets because they are really old.
You're dealing with very old assets, legacy assets. Some of these things aren't used that often. They're old parts to tanks that don't get used very often, so you don't see the turnover.
One of the tests I would like to see us put to DND is how they have done with the new inventory. We all understand that the old legacy things are an issue, but for new purchases, are we seeing improvements there?