They are working in the industry.
Immediately, that strikes me as their having a conflict of interest, a very large conflict of interest. In fact, I think the chair of your board alluded to it by saying that when it came to tariffs, certain board members argued against tariffs, which would indicate that they have a special interest in making sure tariffs were kept lower than perhaps what the board recommendation for management had been.
How does it work in your board meetings when you're dealing with issues? Do these people recuse themselves and walk out of the room 10 times during a meeting because they have a conflict of interest? What's the deal here?