We have 20 seconds left, and it's 5:30.
Thank you very much to our witnesses today, Mr. Gagnon, Mr. Wild, Mr. Ferguson, and Mr. Berthelette. This is obviously not an easy subject to discuss, and we may very likely call you back. We probably haven't finished, but I'll have to discuss that with my colleagues.
Thank you again for your presence.
The meeting is adjourned.