Just as we introduce Mr. Matthews again, let me say that in some sense much of this comes back to Treasury Board, because in the very conclusion of his report, the Auditor General said:
...the Treasury Board...developed guidance for departments and agencies to help them assess and manage overall departmental risks. However, the Secretariat did not provide specific guidance on fraud risk management or monitor how departments and agencies managed their risk of fraud.
Is that part of the role of the Treasury Board now? We've heard from all these departments on how they're going to roll out their measures to fight fraud, The secretariat really has the role of guidance, but also follow-up.
We'll go to Mr. Matthews, in response to Mr. Lefebvre's question.