To the extent that interest rates rise, naturally the debt charges on our market debt will increase. There will be an offset, however, from the actuarial value of the pension obligations, because as the discount rate on those obligations rises, the current service costs will be reduced, but I would expect on net, the answer to your question is that, generally speaking, with an increase in interest rates, debt charges will increase.
On October 17th, 2017. See this statement in context.