Looking at that wasn't the objective of the audit. We'll be down into a bit more of some of those questions in the second audit.
However, I think it's a good question for the department to answer. Under what circumstances did they decide that they needed help from outside consultants? I understand that we can't expect all expertise to be within the federal public service and that from time to time we need to bring in outside consultants. The departments also need to make sure they are considering all of that expertise and advice in the right way and that they're only getting it when they need it.
I can't tell you the specifics of when they decided to bring in outside consultants.