They need to be monitored. That's one group of women, let's say. There is another group of women who, because there is an incident, perhaps are at risk because somebody has threatened them and they need to be protected. Then I suppose you have another group, which might be the people who are doing the threatening. They can end up in segregation.
We have all three of those. When I say segregation, I mean cells in the segregation range. They aren't all necessarily treated the same way; at least that's my understanding.
As Ms. Kelly just mentioned, I think part of the issue is about understanding the conditions. To me, what the environment of segregation should be for somebody who is threatening all of the other inmates would be very different from, let's say, that for a pregnant women who needs to be segregated because somebody is threatening her.
If the environment is pretty much the same, if the type of cells they end up in are pretty much the same.... It's the conditions. I think we mentioned that, particularly with regard to the mental health issue. Yes, they need to be monitored, but they are being monitored in cells in the segregation range. That's not a clinical environment for people who need to be monitored from a clinical point of view.
I'll ask Ms. McCalla to correct anything I said that was not right, or to add anything else that needs to be added.