I am not trying to say that there are no discussions on both levels. My point about the court case is that I'm not in a position to comment on the specifics of that, as it is advancing through the legal system. It will be addressed and worked through. I think we have to realize that that's one thing that is happening. The call to action and our efforts to improve things in the workplace in a real way, based on people's lived experience, and to better understand that lived experience can work in complementarity with that.
This is not to say that one takes over or subsumes the other. We obviously want to have these efforts under way to improve things, to understand what they are in order to improve them, and to keep working with racialized Canadians, including Black communities of federal public servants.
I don't want to have created the impression that we are not interested in addressing these kinds of concerns. These are the things we are looking at when we are trying to explore programs and policies, as I referred to, within our organization's hiring processes. We have examples in some of our northern regional agencies where they are working to actually build a more inclusive approach to hiring indigenous people in the north in order to make sure that we don't have a system that doesn't relate to the cultural reality of their world. So, we are working on things—