I can say this. Whatever happens in the media or at a political level finds its way down to our members. Remember, our members are in the trenches. They're not senior management; they're the doers of the work. They see the numbers, the financial statements.
It can sometimes be difficult to tie what we are trying to achieve at a very high level with what they're saying. We're saying that we believe in integrity, that values are important, that we need to do due diligence and have value for money. However, when we see a report like the one from the Auditor General, it makes our members very frustrated because this whole thing could have been prevented had we just adhered to the existing financial framework.