My point is that the Canadians I'm engaging with, Mr. Chair, from coast to coast are wondering why there's a proverbial firewall between the scandal and the government—the Prime Minister and the ministers.
This emphasizes the point even more that we definitely need to hear directly from the ministers, because all we're hearing in the House are the ministers repeating the same line over and over again: “I didn't know. I wasn't informed.” That's not good enough.