Thank you for your response.
I've been in Parliament for a long time and have seen numerous scandals with contracting out. On ArriveCAN, we're looking at $60 million. The Phoenix system that started under the Harper government is now at $2.5 billion and counting. The ETS scandal under the Harper government was $400 million. I could go on and on with the Harper government and the current government and numerous scandals.
At any point, have you seen governments, namely the former Conservative government, consulting with the expertise in your union, the financial accountants who understand the best way to go forward? Were you ever consulted—I mean your members—on Phoenix or ever consulted on ETS? You've mentioned that they were not really consulted on ArriveCAN.