Okay. So there are two different offices, two opportunities rather than one, that did not do the necessary follow-up to make sure that SDTC was using public funds wisely. Access to the minutes was not verified, obviously.
I have another point of information, and I think it is important that taxpayers know about it. As early as 2018, there was an internal audit that recommended a review of the conflict of interest policies and assurance that they were being properly overseen by the department. This means that recommendations for an internal audit were referring to these problems as early as 2018.
Now, you are telling me that not one, but two teams at the department did not do the necessary follow-up with SDTC. That is problematic.
When was it decided to abolish Sustainable Development Technology Canada? We know that the announcement was made on the same day as the Auditor General's report was submitted. However, the decision had to have been made well before that. When was it made, please?