Evidence of meeting #134 for Public Accounts in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was cbsa.

A recording is available from Parliament.

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MPs speaking

Also speaking

Diane Daly  As an Individual

3:35 p.m.

Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

[Inaudible—Editor] the initial piece of communication?

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As an Individual

Diane Daly

Yes, it was on December 7.

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Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

In addition to the audio phone call and in addition to the emails, were there other phone calls that took place to get you at that particular interview that you did not take?

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As an Individual

Diane Daly

Yes. I was shocked when I—

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Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

How many?

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As an Individual

Diane Daly

I honestly don't know.

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Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

Thank you, Ms. Daly.

You referenced some important details in that audiotape conversation between you and the DG.

Are there other damning, more significant pieces of that conversation you want to share with us right now?

3:35 p.m.

As an Individual

Diane Daly

Certainly. This is a conversation that Lysane had with me.

She said, “I'll seek clarity on the mandatory versus non-mandatory”, but before she said that, she said, “I think that you should feel comfortable having Tom or I present at that upcoming meeting. I think that would be a good idea for you as well, so I'll get back to Michel.” She's referring to Michel Lafleur. “I'll seek clarity on the mandatory versus non-mandatory, but like I said, I've received my own marching orders, and my feeling is that he's probably received his own marching orders as well on his side as well.”

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Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

By inference, she's misleading you as to whether there's a confusion between optional and non-optional.

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As an Individual

Diane Daly

That's correct. She said.... I wasn't told it was optional on the tape.

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Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

You clearly had no choice.

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As an Individual

Diane Daly

I had no choice.

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Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

You were compelled to attend.

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As an Individual

Diane Daly

She told me I had no option.

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Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

Okay. Let's talk about the interview itself. How long was it?

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As an Individual

Diane Daly

It was 13 minutes.

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Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

The interview—

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As an Individual

Diane Daly

The interview with CBSA. Is that what you mean?

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Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

Yes.

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As an Individual

Diane Daly

It was three and a half hours.

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Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

It was three and a half hours. Where did it take place?

Diane Daly

Virtually.

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Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

Did you get a break?

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As an Individual

Diane Daly

Yes, I did.

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Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

What was the tone like in that particular three and a half hour interview?