Mr. Chair, to respond to the honourable member's question, I would say that as the Ethics Commissioner noted in his report, at the time of her application, Ms. Verschuren was advised by the Privy Council Office to speak directly with the commissioner, given the nature of the conflicts. That's very clearly laid out in the commissioner's report.
It was the commissioner who felt there were ways to mitigate the conflicts she had. It was on that basis that the advice was provided at the time that she was in good standing from a legislative perspective to hold the role.