Public Accounts Committee on Sept. 25th, 2024

[Lysane Bolduc]

The human resources unit contacted me.

[Kelly McCauley, Conservative, Edmonton West, AB]

Who in HR?

[Lysane Bolduc]

I believe it was a director in human resources who was aware that the investigation unit—

[Kelly McCauley, Conservative, Edmonton West, AB]

Why would you not contact someone at your level to contact Ms. Daly? Why not Mr. von Schoenberg? Why would HR not do this themselves?

[Lysane Bolduc]

Thank you for the question, and it's a good question, actually. It could have been Mr. von Schoenberg. I know the people within human resources, and I've worked with them quite—

[Kelly McCauley, Conservative, Edmonton West, AB]

How many other affairs such as this have you gotten personally involved in at this level, of people relatively lower down the ladder?

[Lysane Bolduc]

There are at least two others that I can think of.

[Kelly McCauley, Conservative, Edmonton West, AB]

Don't you find it odd that HR would contact you about this?

[Lysane Bolduc]

No. I actually know those people—

[Kelly McCauley, Conservative, Edmonton West, AB]

Do you know why specifically she was suspended or put on admin leave?

[Lysane Bolduc]

No. Because I am not part of that investigation, I don't.

[Kelly McCauley, Conservative, Edmonton West, AB]

You testified earlier that you're hands-on, you're a caring person and you wanted to be involved. You followed up with her, you said, but when one of your people was suspended, you didn't follow up about the reasons she was suspended.

[Lysane Bolduc]

I actually had interactions with her after she was suspended. She asked questions about—

[Kelly McCauley, Conservative, Edmonton West, AB]

But you never asked why she was suspended.

Whose decision was it to suspend her? It was made within PSPC, so—

[Lysane Bolduc]

It was, yes.

It was not my decision, but I did carry it, as her superior.

[Kelly McCauley, Conservative, Edmonton West, AB]

You were promoted two weeks after her suspension.

When did you apply for this promotion or put your name in for the promotion?

[Lysane Bolduc]

This was not a promotion. I want to be super clear there. Although I know it was said that it was a promotion, I was already a director general. I was already an EX-03 and I had been for a while.

[Kelly McCauley, Conservative, Edmonton West, AB]

Did you put your name in for this, or did they just pluck you out of the air for this role?

[Lysane Bolduc]

I was asked to stand up.

[Kelly McCauley, Conservative, Edmonton West, AB]

By who?

[Lysane Bolduc]

I was asked by my boss.

[Kelly McCauley, Conservative, Edmonton West, AB]

Who is your boss? When I ask who, I'm asking for names, please, just for future reference.

[Lysane Bolduc]

My boss is the ADM, Dominic Laporte, and he asked if I would undertake the transformation of professional services. As several reports from the audit—

[Kelly McCauley, Conservative, Edmonton West, AB]

You have repeatedly said that, when they contacted you, it was about gaps in the story. What were those gaps?

[Lysane Bolduc]

I don't know, because I am not part of the investigation. Again, as documented through audits that are public, there were gaps in the procurement and in the contract management for ArriveCAN.