According to my records and excluding the case related to COVID‑19, I would say a total of 32 times. As to real conflicts of interest, it was four times. That is very clear. We were investors at the time, including myself personally. The other conflicts pertained to files under review, as I said.
We receive about 1,200 files per year. It is our team members who do the preliminary review, not me. We have a mechanism included in a database. Each time, I asked for the files, and I recused myself for all of those files. There was also an exception for GHGSat, because my niece works there. That is why I also recused myself.