I used to have all those numbers in my head, because the quality of their performance used to annoy me quite a bit when I was running the CDPQ.
I would say that their performance over a period of time.... It's not in any one year that you judge the quality of the performance of a fund of that size, whether it's five years or 10 years. Somebody once said that it's not the next quarter you manage for in that business, but the next quarter century. It's their long-term performance that counts. I think they, along with CDPQ and some other Canadian pension funds, stack up against almost anybody in the world in terms of the quality of those returns.
I would also say.... This is not a question you're asking, but to come back to the issues around environment and climate change, I think Canadian pension funds have been among the leaders in the world in staking out ground with respect to the importance of climate transition, and they have done that while at the same time generating really world-leading returns.
I think these funds are a huge national asset.