Mr. Chair, there are not cost savings in all instances.
There are cost savings if we are taking what Catherine described as a “smart” model or approach, or some type of.... I could use the word “workload”. It's easier to describe, rather than “data application”. There are cost savings, but we need to do the detailed analysis before we go there, because it's difficult to just go in and go out. You cannot change your mind if you build into a data centre. If you want to amortize investment, you need to be there for a while.
If we go in the cloud, we also need to learn not to stay locked in with a vendor, and have that velocity. Catherine was really blunt with the committee before, so I will be on this one. I said to the hyperscaler that these companies have not given us the right price still. Organizing together as an enterprise, being able to procure with this consolidated demand from the Government of Canada, we can get a better price from them; so we are not at the end of measuring savings, because we haven't necessarily had the best price yet.