There are probably a lot of answers to that, but maybe I will draw on our experience with child and family services for first nations. There are some pieces of work there that are very important.
If we talk about the increase in expenditures over the last decade at Indigenous Services Canada, one area that had tremendous growth was first nations child and family services. In 2015-16, our budget was not even $700 million, although that's a lot too. This year, it will be around $4 billion annually. Why is that? Mind you, we are under the jurisdiction of the Human Rights Tribunal. Nonetheless, the funding Canada is investing in first nations child and family services now has prevention at the forefront, and there's a per capita set amount for all kids, irrespective.... Right there, we know we have a protected amount of money per child for prevention.
Much of the programming going out to either first nations or FNCF child welfare agencies is actual-actual cost. Whether you're a small agency or a large agency—obviously, the small agencies have economies of scale issues and whatnot, so it costs more—we pay the rightful cost you need. It's not a formula-based approach, which would likely shortchange the small communities.
There are also services that have a remoteness quotient. If you're a smaller community or agency working in the north of a province or territory, for example, there's an additional sum of money plus additional supports so you can deliver those services for your children.
All of this is to say that it's changing the way we fund. It's changing the way we have that conversation about what folks are supposed to do with that money and what kinds of results we're going to see.
I'm not sure if that answers your question, but it shows that there are some best practices in place right now that we can look to as we try to change, going forward.
