We're fighting over who goes to the microphone. I win, Karen.
It's a great question because, at the end of the day, if the people who are impacted by these things are not involved from the outset, it's silly.
As I mentioned earlier, that capacity support is really important so that first nations and indigenous peoples can organize themselves and have the bandwidth, the human resources and the expertise to contribute. In fact, we've started that. It's not perfect, but if we talk about the emergency management audit, there were many recommendations. With the Assembly of First Nations, my department set up a steering committee, which was tasked with looking at those recommendations and coming together on what we could do to improve and meet those targets going forward.